#3.5 INITIATE OF THE SEVENFOLD VEIL HOW TO#

But this can be done generally more effectively by say, a Fighter with a spiked chain and trip feats. You can do only one thing, and one thing good. Third: You always have the issue of dealing with concealment, miss chances, ethereal, incorporeal, and magical invisibilities, but unlike spellcasters you have much less options to deal with them.ДЇourth: Your role is SEVERLY limited. Second: I can't stress how many of the higher CR monsters have some form of evasion mechanic that makes it quite difficult to enter into melee, or to stay out of reach of a melee character.

Nearly all of the monk builds suffer from one giant problem: they deal physical damage only, and rely on Melee strikes.This does a few things:ДЇirstly, monk BAB is already bad, when you multiclass into casters to give them more power, it just gets worse. The idea is that you have to take so many extra abilities, and features that weren't already built into the class to make it good.

But then you are suggesting tradeoffs, if you think the Monk is good when you add a psionic class to it, or can take two feats and stack a psionic classes progression with a monk progression and claim it to still be a 'monk' you are mistaken. The only reason why the Monk has any chance when you take Core sources (SRD, etc) is because you add Psionics on it. Saying a class (monk) is powerful because you can gain the abilities of another class (Psionic Warrior) completely defeats the purpose of saying that class is powerful. You want unbalanced just use the Book of Vile Darkness and it's counter Part The Book of Divine something, either way the apostle of peace can have 42 ac Dr10/- and Fh/5 by level 12, and the BoVD spells are exorbitantly rigged.

#3.5 INITIATE OF THE SEVENFOLD VEIL HOW TO#

But I think for the most part it's just a question of whether you know how to build one and run one. Still, there are people who will tell you the monk is underpowered. Base damage: 64d8 (48d8 if size damage is capped at Colossal) ( I made a table.) Not doing anything too weird, bread-and-butter stuff only, a Monk 6/Psionic Fist 9/Warshaper 1/Initiate of the Draconic Mysteries 4 with, Improved Natural Attack, a Monk's Belt and an Ectoplasmic Fist (total cost, 20,000gp) can Metamorphosis into a size G Wyvern and use an enhanced Expansion to get to Colossal plus. It's the unarmed combat damage no other damage in the game scales like that. Monks are not weak at the lower levels per se, but you have to use their speed and agility and stay out of stand-up fights.Д®specially with the Eberron rules, the higher-level monk can get pretty broken.

Spellcasting is overpowered only at very high levels, or in the hands of indulgent DMs who do not put pressure on the main weakness of the spellcasters - the ease with which they can be killed.ДЄt the higher levels, monks certainly outperform all of the other fighting classes and with levels in Psionic Fist, they poach spellcasters' territory as well. Dropping an opponent in one round is surely easier with an optimized Cleric than an optimized Rogue. Optimizing any spellcaster will always yield better results than any other class: spellcasting is inherently too powerful. My point is that one things Rogues are known for, a Cleric can do better. Yeah, the Wizard is definitely the most unbalanced class.ДЄarnott 14:30, 19 October 2008 (MDT) The Cleric can't always accomplish that (the key word here is reliably). The whole point of the Rogue is to reliably drop one enemy a round, which is something it does pretty well. The Rogue isn't just a sneak-based character, though. Clerics, for instance, can do sneaking a lot better than a rogue using the trickery domain (Invisibility + Silence is a sweet combo). Druids and Clerics are also not too shabby. The class itself isn't unbalanced the spells are. You might want to read up on the rules that you're trying to use.namely, Shield, which is a personal-only spell which means that you cannot cast it on other people, and it cannot be made into a potion.ДЄarnott 14:19, 19 October 2008 (MDT) You're joking, right? The Monk is the weakest class in the core books, and one of the weakest classes in the game. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. Its contents should be preserved in their current form.

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